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Post by betfairbill on Jun 19, 2012 23:03:40 GMT
Well if I modified my post, you can't quote it, iy becomes your post Farns.
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Post by sharon on Jun 19, 2012 23:07:38 GMT
Stan As a parent I am intelligent enough to make a decision and my son is old enough to make his own decisions. we were all given an option if they wanted to breakaway it was not forced on us. Yet again this is personal with one person getting blamed when in fact everyone else is blowing it out of proportion.
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Post by kopite on Jun 19, 2012 23:09:45 GMT
well then you shouldn't write a comment then retract without an explanation, i did think it was a bold statement at the time so i printed it out.
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Post by sharon on Jun 19, 2012 23:18:29 GMT
Betfairbill I Was just wondering when you were relating to RB & SH how long since they were both connected to the youth section ? Also It's not easy for people to keep up with this thread if comments keep getting modified why write something if you are going to remove it ?
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Post by betfairbill on Jun 20, 2012 6:01:34 GMT
ok, it was a while ago when RB and SH were connected to the club....we got absolutely no feedback from the youth section financially since then, and we have not seen a set of accounts for two years since RR has been self appoointed leader. How's that? I am not questioning anyones probity however. I am certain that all monies have been accounted for.
Also, in answer to the original question, I would think the £90-95 subs goes to pay for coaches courses, referees, balls, etc etc............all kinds of things...the only thing I can catagorically state that it did not contribute to was payment to the mani club. I have been asked by 3 different parents asknig about payments to the main club....THERE HAVE NOT BEEN ANY. Of course the thing has got a bit personal, because a lot of untruth has been spouted about the main club... Sharon, you might feel comfortable in that you have had time to make your mind up, but others have expressed their disgust in the way they have been used as pawns in the game. The whole idea by RR that it was the parents who were going to make the decision was just a ploy to legitimise the breakaway. I don't mind who plays for who...it has nothing to do with me, but what I do care about is when concocted stories about the main club are used as reasons for the breakaway.
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Post by gatherbyhens on Jun 20, 2012 6:49:39 GMT
Sharon, as you are a parent who is intelligent enough to make a decision perhaps I can ask you why you were in favour of the breakaway? 1) What more could the "main club" have done? 2) What will now be different? You said yourself that nothing will change for your son!
A lot of people seem to be spouting their opinions about the "main club" without substantiating anything. People at MTFC "main club" have given all of the facts.
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Post by gooner on Jun 20, 2012 7:10:09 GMT
Sharon i have to say i am not reading anything personal on here just people having a different opinion on events. Its only by taking on board peoples view points that you can get a true picture of what the real situation is. I was not aware that the club did not receive money from the youth section or how much the boys gave to sign on at the start of a season. I would be alarmed from both sides ( seniors and youth ) that accounts for the youth section have not been produced each year. The position of liaison officer could and should have dealt with any concerns parents may have had and help the club become one. Obviously not all parents feel the same about the breakaway and the club will have youth teams next season while the breakaway boys will still play football just the same. There are no hard feelings towards anyone about this situation i know, its just the way certain events have been portrayed for persons advantage. Armed with all the correct facts i do feel perhaps a breakaway would never have happened. The seniors thought they had put in place via a liaison officer the link that would pull everyone together but were not aware it was a wedge pushing them apart. There is a lesson to be learnt there for the seniors and they check everyone is happy and together rather than trust someones word all is ok. I dont believe parents were really unhappy before a breakaway was suggested and if they were they should have spoken up. The forum is for discussion and opinion but people must be prepared to modify their opinion when they learn facts they had not considered. All is not always what it seems.
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Post by charlie1 on Jun 20, 2012 10:47:33 GMT
As one of the parents whos team are still undecided whether to go to youth or stay as town, it has all been very confusing ! We have been told one reason for the breakaway and then when i investigate further, find that this was not the reason at all. At the end of the day, i think most parents in the youth side (and i know im speaking for all of OUR team) that this was done the completely wrong, if RR wanted to break away from town, he shouldve had the decency to inform all parents of his plans FIRST before taking it upon himself to make the decision first. Our team was perfectly happy playing as part of MTFC and ideally, we want everything to stay the same ie have our coach, boys all stay together, play for town and wear the badge...now it looks like we have a decision to make whether it is to breakaway from town or if our coach wants to be youth, breakaway from him, or worse case, some of the boys leave which is just not fair for them as they have had their first season together and they have done so well.....as a parent, im just so angry that this has to be decided...
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Post by sharon on Jun 20, 2012 10:50:06 GMT
gatherbyhens I will answer as an " intelligent parent " as you made a point of stating it. My son decided to go with Youth he is old enough to decide for himself. Looking back at the seasons my son has played for Town I can't see what the main club have actually done for the youth apart from letting then play on the pitch on challenge cup day. There will be no difference same manager, same team mates so why stay at Town ?
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Post by sharon on Jun 20, 2012 11:05:46 GMT
charlie1 if you are happy with the coach and the boys are happy with their coach I don't understand why it is a hard decision. Like you point out players will either leave, the team will split up or the team will breakaway from their coach. The only difference I can see if you breakaway from Town will be a different badge.
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Post by gatherbyhens on Jun 20, 2012 11:34:54 GMT
Sharon, once again you have dodged my questions. If you have read all of the posts on this topic you will see lots of things that MTFC have done for the youth. Your response is exactly what I expect from you people, spouting the same old s#ite that "I can't see what the main club have actually done for the youth". My next question: what did you want them to do?
Your attitude actually makes me sick. "Why stay at town?" Why leave? You people make a mockery of the club, its history and what it stands for, more importantly you have made a mockery of all of the people that worked tirelessly (and in their own time) to try and make it work. SHAME ON YOU for throwing it all away without a care in the world.
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Post by sharon on Jun 20, 2012 12:05:51 GMT
Excuse me who the hell do you think you are What do you mean by you people ?? Your the one talking sh**. Tell me then what exactly have Town done for the youth ? Why are you posting behind a nick name why not use your real name. You are obviously something to do with the " main club " Get it right its your attitude that makes me sick. Lets be honest Town are not happy with the breakaway as they won't get any money for having youth teams. Let me remind you RR has worked tirelessly or did you forget. Shame on you !!!!!
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Post by kopite on Jun 20, 2012 12:21:18 GMT
Gatherbyhens correct me if im wrong this is a discussion board which means people are going to have a disagreement of views so just because people have different views to you why on earth are than labelled as you people and sharon's attitude makes you sick. Them peoples views are just as good as yours and very harsh to label people. You are labelling lots of people for what reason they dont agree with you. People may have more respect if you are open with who you are , and that your remarks dont all come from a username
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Post by betfairbill on Jun 20, 2012 12:32:12 GMT
And you are? talk about kettles and pots...I am certain I know who kopite is, probably the Liverpool reference, but you cant moan about people using a username when you use one yourself. sharon you are way off track as to why the main club is unhappy about the breakaway...stop thinking about money all the time, we do not derive any money from having a youth section, never have and never will...................This has been a well orchestrated coup by RR who was derelict of his duty to the main club by keeping us in the dark over any unrest. Even my next door neighbour can see that, and he has a dog and a white stick(no offence Dennis). There is none so blind as those that will not see... Also, gatherbythehens is not part of the club, but he is a person who has seen something that has been built up over the years chucked away over lies and deceit. By the way nobody has never said RR hasn't worked tirelessly over the years, he is only one of many though. Surely we have a right to our opinion, and lets face it, we do know the facts, which clearly a lot of don't considering the rubbish that you have come up with about money, money, money and money!
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Post by gatherbyhens on Jun 20, 2012 12:32:52 GMT
My name is Gareth Hensby, I am nothing to do with the main club. I played for Under 10's right through to reserves.
From Shehen:
1 They ( Managers/Parents) wanted their own bank account so that every penny they raised was used for their team. Committee agreed to this . 2 They all wanted to play on the MTFC pitch - this could never happen. Instead we introduced Challenge Cup Day so that all lads could experience playing on the pitch for that one special day with older teams using the pitch for their home games. 3 They all wanted free admission to MTFC games - Committee agreed and all registered players were given membership cards. Managers were also allowed free entry to first team home games. 4 They wanted to use the clubhouse free for end of season functions and kitchen for match days- committee agreed - I even did the bar at times. 5 We introduced match mascots for first team games, ball boys and prematch friendlies for the younger teams so that they all felt part of MTFC. 6 This is not to mention being part of a charter standard club with a committee both on youth and at Main Club who did and still do everything voluntarily- alot of hard work!
From applefootball:
1 - In my time at MTFC I have tried desperately on various levels/schemes and ideas to support and get a full up and running youth section for MTFC to filter eventually into adult football - this has failed because of a variety of reasons, some because of coach's, players themselves, parents and other individuals intervening. This has given me a lot of hard work and disappointment.
2 - I have personally for two years asked verbally to people, asked verbally at MTFC meetings to relevant parties, had phone conversations and texts ASKING to be involved with the youth meetings, be invited to any meetings and assist with development - I have NEVER been asked or taken up on my offer.
3 - we have supported the Youth section from an adult / first team perspective at ALL times WHEN ASKED - e.g. attended youth days (me, Coops, Popey and Tom over the past two years, handed out trophies etc), allowed them to train on parts of the pitch we were not using on our training nights when viable etc.
As you and Kopite have dodged the questions so brilliantly, I will ask again, what more did you want MTFC to do for the youth, and what will now be different?
What money is this Sharon? Do tell.
You people as in the people that have instigated the breakaway and those that couldn't give a s#it about the club.
RR worked so tirelessly for that he took the youth section away. My Mum spent hours and hours and hours trying to give everything the youth section wanted and bring the "main club" and youth together. RR did the opposite!
I just hate people have opinions and spouting rubbish without backing it up with anything!
Who are you then Kopite?
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