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Post by kopout on Jun 17, 2012 14:28:16 GMT
youthparent, do you think the parents and children were represented correctly at meetings when the club finds out about problems on a forum. I can assure you if I had children I would not have been happy with the representation, looks to me that if problems had been discussed at the committee meetings a lot of these problems could have been addressed and fixed. I have read through this complete thread and I can only say there has been a lot of skulduggery. Glad to hear there will be a youth section at Mildenhall next season.
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Post by thefriar on Jun 17, 2012 14:56:09 GMT
youthparent, MTFC have until 30th June to register any mini soccer sides i.e. under 11's and by next Wednesday for teams above this age group. So if there are youth teams wishing to play under the MTFC banner please contact me via personal message on this site or phone me directly on 07813177339. After next Wednesday i will then post a full list of youth teams playing at MTFC.
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Post by gooner on Jun 17, 2012 19:06:11 GMT
Youthparent i have to say you seem to have taken the comments of Buff really to heart without an understanding of his frustration at seeing the youth section being taken for a ride. The emotions of the boys and parents really have been played here if you stop and give the situation some thought. If you ask the boys if they wish to play for their managers next season they will say yes because they obviously get on. If you ask your son if he wants to play with his mates again next season again he will say yes so the decision has been simple to make for you its all stick together and all break away. Now the big question is how will your son benifit from tthis move away. Will he still pay the same subs will he still play at riverside will in fact anything really change for him the answer is NO. So tell me how he will benifit. I was told that with grants ( if any are made ) they will be able to buy a ground and have their own facilities. How long and how much money do you think it would take to get what you already had in place at MTFC. None of your boys will ever see as youth players a club house like MTFC has as it would take £1m + and you would have to raise half at least. Starting from where you are you would be 20 years away so i ask you again How will YOUR son benifit ? The only person to benifit it with a bit of position and power will be the person that decided to organise the breakaway and if he ever decides to call it a day then it will have been for nothing and MTFC will still have youth sides. I hope you understand BUFFs frustration because he can see what perhaps you are failing to see and believe me he wants what is best for your son and only the best. Your son like all the others deserve better. MTFC have been told by parents that they are not all happy to break away and some really do want their sons playing at the Town and of course they are welcome i know.
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Post by fish on Jun 17, 2012 19:25:20 GMT
The fact so many senior people at the club have got so involved in this thread and have been passionate in it speaks absolute volumes. It would be easy to wash their hands of some of the issues of youth football but they haven't. It is a credit to mtfc and it looks as though youth football will continue, hopefully it will also see the club pulling together and making it a proper success.
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Post by gooner on Jun 18, 2012 7:32:21 GMT
I think the youth section would have felt more a part of the club if managers and parents were 1/ to use the facilities more rather than going to the social club after games 2/ profiled their teams and players via the club website and programme. People would love to read about the youth success and results if only the managers would forward the information. For the club to be one it requires input from all
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Post by betfairbill on Jun 18, 2012 8:15:56 GMT
Although Buff has retired, betfairbill has taken his place. There is just too much info to keep to oneself really.
Thank you for the support you showed Buff gooner, much appreciated.
I spoke again to RR on Saturday, and he was very keen to point out that the challenge cup day money went into the bank account. There were a lot of things that were maing the club members angry...the one about the old U15s parents/managers using the social club after their match rather than Recway has been doing the rounds for months, but is unsubstantiated, and largely irrelevant. We have asked the youth section to supply copy for the programme for years...Frank Marshall produces the programme (voluntarily i will add) and is always receptive of decent copy, articles , to put in. We have asked the youth section to post their results, reports on this club website...To be fair, Brad has put in a few items, and Steve Ryan has added a few fixture notifications, but overall the response has been less than enthusiastic.
I think now that people reading this thread will see the real picture, and see how the main club has held the door wide open for the youth section for years, and that they have systematically refused to cross the threshold.
I am so pleased that the MTFC youth section is carrying on in some form, and I am sure that the relationship with the existing youth section will be far more cordial than that that existed before. Mick is correct in saying nobody is bigger than the club!
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Post by shehens on Jun 18, 2012 13:01:44 GMT
Correct me if I am wrong but was Rob Redman not appointed by the MTFC Committee as the Youth Co-ordinator who's position was to work with both the Youth and MTFC committee and pull the two together? He should have encouraged the youth managers to interact with the club and everything it had to offer. Then again, you can only lead a horse to water,you cannot make it drink it.
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Post by gooner on Jun 18, 2012 14:32:26 GMT
I would love to hear from people on here that felt so strongly about the breakaway. Parents managers or even Mr Redman himself as its important to hear all view points. If you feel strong enough about something then you should stand up and be counted. If nothing else the things that have upset you the club will learn from and be a better club for it. So lets hear you speak up. Sometimes when you write something down it never looks quite so bad or important.
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Post by stan on Jun 18, 2012 15:39:35 GMT
You are correct Shehen. In my opinion the coordinator has to relay information between parties in a promotional manner. Although they may have their own agenda or requirements they should put across fully what each party is saying always striving for the best interest of the club. Looking back over this thread it would appear that managers, parents and the committee have all been misinformed in some way or another. The football club really does have so much to offer the community as a whole. I look forward to a youth section at MTFC who will use the clubhouse for their end of season do’s as Brad did this year. Or take up Bills offer on a family race night, Or come on board with some of our fundraising efforts, Or being part of some of the first team games such as ball boys or mascots Or just coming to watch football.........
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Post by steve on Jun 19, 2012 7:38:29 GMT
over the past 11 seasons i have gone from a helping dad to a team coach with one of the most succesful youth teams then i was to retire as my son finished at under 16s but due to a forced retirement due to work commitments i stepped in to take another youth team for a season as i didnt want them to fold but 3 seasons later no other manager can be found so i am staying with the team and yes i have jumped ship but that does not mean i wont be supporting mildenhall town. i was still there at 6am for the car boot on sunday iwll stil be at as many matches as i can i will still fill the mildenhall money box (fruit machine) the only difference is i will have to pay at the gate so why is everybody getting thier knickers in a twist because the boys will still be playing football every week they just wont be putting money into the mildenhall town coffers and in my oppinion thats what most of this is about .in the thread ppl have said about the boys getting a free pass its not free every boy (wiether they go to matches or not and most fall under the not catergary)pay £10 a season to be a junior member.RR didnt organise this break away its been coming for years mrs hensby was the first person i remember bringing it up years ago,it was a unanamous dicision by all youth team managers and coaches. also all parents were asked to attend the meeting at the bell those that did from my team all agreed to break with us so i dont see how they were missinformed or taken for a ride. and stan there was a time not so long ago when we couldnt have our end of season do at the club because of an end of season do that got out of hand under 18s i belive . and shehens RRwas appionted leason between the 2 commitees but someone from the main commitee was supposed to attend the junior meetings i think trevor came twice over the last season. and betfairbill i have never been asked to provide anything for the 1st team programme the only thing any of my teams have had in the programme is when my sons team won the under 15 league and cup double. any way off to work now i will check in again b4 the game tonight to answer any questions
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Post by gooner on Jun 19, 2012 7:40:09 GMT
Good points made there Stan and i was thinking the lack of response from managers and parents might just be because what may have seemed a good idea at the time perhaps does not seem the best for the boys now. Just as long as the boys enjoy there football is the main thing though.
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Post by damo on Jun 19, 2012 7:54:00 GMT
It seems that MTFC will have some youth teams still next season, which will be great, sooner this news comes out the better then everyone can just move on. The old youth teams can play under a different banner and do what they want to, which is great for them and MTFC can have perhaps one or two youth teams that are happy to play under the MTFC banner and be part of the club.
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Post by stan on Jun 19, 2012 7:54:39 GMT
Just to dot the I's the youth managers and coaches were required to hold MTFC Membership, (that was the case last year). They are charged the same as everyone else £12. For this we provided 120+ MTFC 2011 - 2012 player cards for their respective teams which when shown allowed the player free entry to all home matches.
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Post by gatherbyhens on Jun 19, 2012 12:31:16 GMT
Tutttutt
Everyone is getting their kncikers in twist because of people like you. As you were one of these managers that voted unanimously for the break away, perhaps you can answer the questions that you all seem to be dodging! 1) What more could MTFC have done for the youth section and 2) what will now be different?
The whole myth that the youth section was feeding the MTFC coffers is like a broken record, so will you now be feeding Rob Redman's coffers?
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Post by gooner on Jun 19, 2012 15:45:54 GMT
Good to hear from Tutttutt and his points of view. Do you think things could have been so different for your team if they had had better representation at the main committee. I say this because surely RR should have been pushing for youth content in programmes which the club would have willingly given. This is just a small example that could and would have made the youth players feel part of the club as a whole. When funds raised by the youth went to the main club the funds were going to their club as well if they used it after their games. I have noted from the main club in this thread the choice of the word allowed when stating that the senior club allowed the youth section. It is their club also so perhaps allowed is not the best choice of word. I state this just to balance and opinion on this subject. I am sure that the new MTFC youth for next season will work better with the main committee and both parties will have learnt alot from the experience the breakaways. I also hope the youth section use the clubhouse more as it is their club also.
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